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 Post subject: orijen high protein and magnesium
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I am thinking to give orijen food but i read contains high protein and magnesium and persian cats have kidneys problems.what is your opinion?


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 Post subject: Re: orijen high protein and magnesium
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I suspect no one has responded because (a) LindaH is away and (b) this is always a controversial issue.

Cats are obligate carnivores and therefore must eat meat which is primarily protein. The higher the protein content of your food, the better.

If you want to reduce the chance of your cat's developping kidney problems, one way to do so is feed your cat wet catfood exclusively. In the wild, cats get the water they need from their prey. And water is needed for kidneys to function properly. Many cats fed on kibble do not drink enough to provide the water their systems need.

I give my two a raw diet. They used to get both wet catfood and kibble, but they reacted badly to the corn in the kibble their vet prescribed. They are thriving on a raw meat diet (currently, it is rabbit or rabbit mixed with pork) to which I add a tiny amount of vegetable to promote regularity, a probiotic and salmon oil. I am lucky because there is a fine boutique near me that prepares and sells its own raw food. They are very particular about the source of their meats/fish. They sell Orijen, by the way, but it may just be the dogfood. They get crunchy treats, but one of my guys prefers smelts or raw chicken hearts or plain 2% Greek yogurt.

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 Post subject: Re: orijen high protein and magnesium
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I did feed Orijen to Dolly...bought the first bag while wintering in
Florida, got a second bag while in Moncton once...(2 hours from here)
Although she loved the food, I realized it was to inconvenient to me as I could not get it locally so switched her to what I could get here.
She loved it and seemed to do well on it..I wished it had been available here, I would have kept her on it...
It was just their regular food, not sure about the protein and magnesium levels.

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Michelangelo came from the breeder with Orijen and had nicely formed poo. When he ate the Royal Canin the other two get, he got the runs. He is now back to Origin. My vet mentioned 'too much protein' but Michelangelo's bm's tell me another story.

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akoylini wrote:
I am thinking to give orijen food but i read contains high protein and magnesium and persian cats have kidneys problems.what is your opinion?


Minor but important correction: ALL cats have kidney problems. Excluding PKD as a kidney problem, persians are no more likely to develop CRF than a moggie.

The question is why does CRF develop in the first place. The standard answer is the protein in the diet of cats causes the kidneys to fail. Thus, by lowering the protein, the kidneys are spared. This is a theory and not a fact. The studies which seem to support it are also flawed.

Some holistic vets don't agree with the high protein/kidney problem relationship. Cats evolved to eat high protein. They would not have evolved to eat something that would shorten their lives. I personally feel, and my vet agrees, it is not the level of protein, but the nature of the protein.

So, Orijen has a reputation for better quality protein sources. The amount of protein would not matter to me -- but the over all ingredients would.

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